Yo, this is a follow up to the tutorial I did showing how to properly get set Maschine to trigger kits in KONG.
That required the use of keyboard mode and it also didn’t allow you much flexibility over each note like having them on each pad.
It was especially confusing when trying to use the step sequencer. Shout out to Mo Mulchandani for asking this question, which inspired this tutorial.
Basically I’m showing how to set up a whole group so each of the 16 pads in Maschine triggers a pad in KONG, so it’s just like loading a Maschine kit.
I also show you how to save it as a group, so you can pull it up any time you wish. As well as how to step sequence it.
So check it out.
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Hey dope famz works great. Hey have u found out theing on the vst that won’t work for me….
Which vsts are you having trouble wit?
LOL, dude so you finally broke down and brought Reason 5. I know that was gonna happen after watching your other videos when you were using the demo.
I really dig the way that Maschine handles routing. It looks like I’ll be buying that Rewire VST so I can follow along with your videos. Time to install Reason/Record on this new PC.
Another great video bro. Keep em’ coming. I can never learn enough.
Yeah man, once I messed with the rewire vst I could treat it just like a plugin that’s all I needed lol, more sounds. Yeah man, so many options with this Maschine bro lol.
Nice.
Speechless……Maschine in all its glory…..You are freakin amazing bruh…can’t thank ya enough! If it wasn’t for this, my work flow would’ve been ridiculous (in a bad way). Now it’s ridiculous (in a good way). Good stuff….
glad to help man, glad it helps ya workflow, thanks for asking the question!
Hey SJ,
Found something real cool. just posted on the forum but you might want to make a vid on this.
This is something is useful ( MaschineR) to those that use maschine but also use Reason, Some dude has created an application that you install on your mac or PC that you can use to control Reason extensively using the maschine controller. It is mega dope.
Check out the vid below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm_8nozru8g
You can cop this on the following website:
http://www.retouchcontrol.com/site_page.aspx?pageid=45
Yeah fam, I’ve actually had that for a while, I tested it out when it was first released. Thanks for the heads up though!
No worries bro. You should do a vid on it if you can.
Yeah, I didn’t really dig it too much, felt it was a bit over complicated for most people.
SJ have u checked out many of the Kong kits? Any Faves?
nah not really, not sure how many I would use but I haven’t explored them yet I have so many of my own drums
This is great bruh, my new work flow. One question remains. I know a lot of people hate Reason/Record’s sequencing, but coming form Pro Tools, I have come to love it. My brain’s programmed to it. And now Maschine comes along and throws a learning curve at me (as small as that curve may be). So the question is…is it feasible to use the Maschine and all its capablities (specifically the step sequencer, note repeat, and beautiful blinking lights!) inside Reason without the need of the Maschine software? I know it’s possible to trigger Kong for instance in Midi Mode,… Read more »
No, it will only do those things through the Maschine software, there is no step sequencer or other functions in the Maschine controller.
An easier way of putting it is asking if there is a way to use the main functions of Machine in Reason/Record without the need of the Machine software. If the Maschine software is necessary (which it looks like it is), then is there a way to sequence inside of Reason/Record (even though it is a slave to the host Machine software)? Joe, now I know why they call u Saint…lol
if you want to sequence the data inside of reason/record, you need to record enable the tracks you’re sending midi to. it will then capture the same midi data that you are putting into Maschine.
Big Homie I did everything!!! Yet Im not getting ANY sound from my pads with this one. And trust to rid myself from looking crazy on MT I tripled check everything. Rewire down to my Base keys….Im @ a lost.
make sure rewire is looking at the proper device, that’s all I can say man it should work exactly as this video, nothing special in the setup. you’ve changed the notes on your pads and you have the virtual midi turned on right?
Thanks man, i’ll try it as soon as I can. One thing though…I record vocals into Record. How would you recommend recording vocals into Record if Record itself is slaved to Maschine’s software? I want to keep recording into Record, but my mic goes thru a preamp, into my usb audio interface. Maschine is routed via usb on another port. This is the last thing really hampering my work flow. You nailed my question on the music production part, now the only thing missing is I need to record into Record. Any ideas?
you can still use Record to do your vocals, you don’t need Maschine for this.
Hey Joe, I got everything working fine with how you’re tutorial instructed except I’m having a problem with the sound coming from Record and Reason when I attempt to use those with Maschine. Just to doublecheck I ran Cubase 6 and rewired Reason with that and I had no sound issues. The sound problem only seems to be when I use Record or Reason from Maschine. The audio sounds like it has static or is being phased when in Maschine. I sampled the drums from Kong so you can hear what I’m talking around here: http://soundcloud.com/madbull-studios/machine-reason-issue Any ideas what could… Read more »
did you recently upgrade jbridge to 1.3 and are you using it with the rewire vst?
Yep, I upgraded to jbridge 1.3 and I used Rewire VST. The only thing I didn’t do since I upgraded to jbridge 1.3 is to re-bridge my 32 bit plugins again. I’ll try doing that and let you know what I get. but Its strange that this only happens with Maschine and not with Cubase.
it’s a jbridge 1.3 issue in maschine, I reverted back to 1.27 for now until they work it out, the dev knows about it.
Ok, I think I narrowed the issue down to something with the Jbridged Rewire VST.
What I did was to load up the 32-bit version of Maschine and run through the same process. Everything sounds fine under the 32-bit system. Now I need to figure out what is going on when I bridge Rewire VST up to 64-bit because that where the problem is coming from. I tried Jbridge 1.3 and still the same issue.
If I figure this out I’ll let you know whats up.
lol, like I said, it’s jbridge 1.3 lol, it’s not the rewire vst, anything you use jbridge with on version 1.3 will have this distortion. I went back to jbridge version 1.27 for now.
That was fast thanks bro.
no doubt 🙂
Yo Saint, in one of the vids, when you were triggering Kong and recording the midi into Maschine’s software, the corresponding Reason sequencer track was “record enabled”, but the midi was only being recorded in Maschine. Even things like the loop length was not synced (could not even move the left and right indicators in Reason/Record). I really really need a way to keep Record/Reason as my main DAW. As far as vocals, my mic is running into my audio interface, and it is not recognized anymore inside of Reason/Record when slaved to Maschine, but the audio interface is selectable… Read more »
Here is the issue, when using ReWire, Reason/Record becomes slave to Maschine, I’m still not understanding what you are hoping to accomplish. Do you plan to record your vocals as your making the track? You won’t be able to select an interface for Record because you are using that interface in Maschine and I’m assuming your interface doesn’t let you use both at the same time. Why not make your track as you like, export it into Record, and record your vocals? This would be a normal DAW workflow, finish the track then record vocals over it. As long as… Read more »
Longest post ever right?
no sir lol
Yea I figured. Preciate all the help man. Yea plenty of time we record guitar or vocals as we’re making the track. With Record in slave mode, I can’t seem to record into Record while Maschine is up and running. But what you’re saying makes sense, I guess I have to adapt my work flow. Good looking man.
yeah, in your case, I’d just use them both as standalone, and still use virtual midi to send midi from maschine to KONG, etc. Then you will still be able to record into RECORD.
Excuse my ignorance for a sec, that that sounds like the way to go. If I use something like copperlan to send midi to RECORD from MASCHINE just like you showed in the vid, but just don’t open the Rewire VST plugin (so I’m sending midi to RECORD from MASCHINE), then would the step sequencer not work anymore for instance (syned to RECORD)? Soundss super easy but Im sure ill over think somewhere. Sorry to hit you with this, if you get time, could you elaborate on how to do this and if it would allow me to use say… Read more »
yep, do the same exact thing except the rewire vst is not in the equation, you still using maschine sequencer to sequence KONG but now you have access to all your Record features, and you can drag the midi from Maschine directly into Record when you’re done using the step sequencer.
Ah I see so ya got to use Mascine 32 bit when using Reason with Rewire VST if you don’t have Jbridge cause I believe Reason is 32 bit?
yessir, rewire vst is only 32 bit, rewire is only 32 bit, and reason is still only 32 bit, so jbridge to the rescue lol.
Are u cool with Jbridge? Is it doing it’s thing alright for ya? Any probs?
yes, it’s nice, but the latest version caused some static issues so I’m using the previous version until they fix it with an update. works fine, does what I need
Thanks man your always really helpful 🙂
Both programs in stand alone seems to be the answer. But homie…how do you midi sync the programs. Im able to play Kong noises, either drum em in or use the step sequencer with Kong kits (which is sooo hot), but the step sequencer runs at its own time, as does Record’s transport. Can they be synced in stand alone mode? I read of Record/Reason’s midi problem….but I thought it would be as easy as clicking MIDI Clock…Any ideas?
you can send midi clock from maschine or set it to sync to an external clock. How you do it depends on how Record handles midi sync. The option is in the Maschine file menu.
Oh I forgot to add another noob question, but if say I use the step sequencer, the notes are printed in the Maschine sequencer. I want to get the midi pattern back into Record. You said drag the pattern into Record, but I have no idea how to do that as stupid as it sounds. To elaborate, I thought I might have been able to even copy and paste the pattern into Record. help…..
no doubt, watch this
https://maschinetutorials.com/how-to-drag-and-drop-audio-or-midi-from-maschine
I actually Like using the new Record 1.5 and Reason 5 integration, but Ihave Maschine also. I was wondering how can I get maschine to trigger its sounds inside of Record 1.5
you would have to set it up via midi, pretty much the same way
wut up fellas i remember knock doing a video on maschines controller being used to operate as a controller in reason he did it for a mac but was’nt sure if it worked for a pc with windows , well i found this info on another site and the templete is in NI’s forum page but was’nt sure if was cool to post on this site untill i checked with you guys first
Not sure what you’re referring to as far as the template but you can post a link to whatever you’re talking about in the forum under the proper section.
whats’s up saintjoe , real quick which would be your preference akai 49 or the m audio axiom pro
Hmmm, many seem to like the akai, I’ve never messed with that one specifically or the axiom pro. I’d say test if you can or look up reviews. Both should be fine, I hear many happy with the akai controllers though.
Man I have been messing about with this this tutorial and I have the pads successfully mapped out but quite often the midi notes jam and repeat, sometimes I have to switched group to get it to stop but then that note won’t play when I return to the group. I’m running reason 6.5 in 32 bit mode. Any ideas what could be causing this? I have followed the video exactly and I have Bus A set to Maschine virtual output and No MIDI input in the midi clock settings. Also I have group C mapped out and assigned on… Read more »
Are you sending midi back from Reason into Maschine somehow? You only need to send midi from Maschine to Reason, no midi should be coming from Reason into Maschine at all.
Thank you soooo much man!! It took a while to realise what was going on!! This morning I was trying to figure out how I was sending midi back and experimenting,I created a virtual midi connection to correspond between the two and spent a lot of time changing all the midi preferences inside reason with no joy. The Maschine midi out option would trigger the reason instruments (but with note repeating and over recording) and Maschine midi input option would not trigger anything. I was about to give up for the day when I re-read your reply and it hit… Read more »
Good news man it sounded like that was the issue from you explanation 🙂
Glad you got it going!