Yo what’s good MT fam!
Back with another one! Yall know I been messing with FL Studio and Maschine, dope lil combo, many possibilites.
But I wanted to show a way to tackle the mp3 sampling issue, since Maschine can’t open mp3 files.
I also went into a lil bit of timestretching too.
I’m using Edison from Image Line, same people that make FL Studio
BUT…I’m not using it in FL Studio, I’m opening Edison directly inside of Maschine, yes, it’s a vst plugin.
Checkout this drag and drop workflow that I think many of you will love not just for mp3 files but longer songs and such.
We all know Maschine’s editor is very basic, not even a playhead, etc. I think this is a great solution to that issue, and I’ll be using it a bunch myself, because it’s so quick and seamless.
I’m doing this all with the demo version, which is only limited by not being able to save and it will insert a noise if you record into it, but I’m not doing either.
Here’s the link to the demo: http://www.image-line.com/documents/edison.html
Sorry to say, this is only available for Windows users at this time….
*access this video when you join today!
Wow, who would have ever thought that FL would be a good marriage with the Maschine. Plus being able to use the mp3’s of some of your joints is super nice!
word, this doesn’t even require FL, just download the standalone/plugin version of Edison, it is available as a separate product.
Thanks fam! This is some great info. Im ordering now!
Cool man glad to help! It should also work standalone dragging from Edison.
Hey Joe!
I looked at the editor over a year ago, which I liked but the find out its not Mac friendly unless things have changes since than.
With the demo are you on a time schedule for a number of days?
Demo doesn’t time out, yeah I don’t think it’s mac compatible.
man sj if this worked with mac i would be straight , imma try to find something similar for mac, if u find something let us know
Will keep my eye open, I’m sure there has to be some sort of vst/au editor for mac.
No mac is wack!
….lemme fix it for ya
….MAC is Wack! lol
ahahahahaha!
Once you go Mac you never go back! Macs are the future. lol
PCs are sooooo yesterday lol.
Haha I’m just playing lol I don’t really care.
No doubt, it’s all about preference homie! One thing we got in common is Maschine and NI loves both lol
word son!
Man this video is a WIN !!!! I am about to download edison now. Like you said man possibilities are endless. !! Dope Vid Joe.
Word fam! I’m den feeling it.
Haters lol i really dont see the advantages of windows mac is so streamlined and dependable, windows theres so much extra stuff u have to do just for one action…. Idk not gonna debate on this, everyone has ther prefence and thats cool
Lol, really don’t matter I’ve used both just prefer Windows, I was just messing with vivid.
awhh yeah. maschine plus edison a match made in heaven. theres alot of stuff in FLstudio that i wish was in maschine.
Yesssssss dope stuff
I went Mac. I went back! It’s all preference. I wanted the customization flexibility. As long as you got the performance power, it’s all just preference…as long as you keep them virus ridden pr0nz off your pc lol
Haha! Yeah they both dope.
Sick vid by the way. I def need to get that bridge going. Gonna search for a vid on it.
I am getting some MAJOR noise from these samples. It’s a digital fuzz.
Yeah, it seems that when I use jBridge for Edison, I get a digital distortion. When I opened maschine in 32bit mode, it was fine.
Yeah sometimes some apps have issues with bit bridge, I’m not having issues though. But 32 bit should work when you just want to chop up mp3
J just sent me a new beta build that is supposed to address the issue that causes distortion in Maschine. I’ll try it and let you know.
Nice tutorial bro.
No doubt bro, thanks.
Oh man! Brilliant!!
This is going to save me sooo much time and make everything sample wise a whole lot easier.
I’m getting right on this….
Thanks St Joe!
Cool bro! It’s really a dope combo, Edison is a dope editor, perfect for editing larger songs and samples.
Hi again, I’m having a little trouble. I installed edison, remembered where the default vst path was that edison installer picked then went into maschine and added that path on the plugin page and made sure it was cool. Then opened edison by itself first. I could not get it to play audio so set up the audio settings. When I then closed it, went into maschine and then opened it in a group, selected a bit of audio and dragged it the little box appeared but when I put it onto sound one maschine came up with an error… Read more »
What type of files are you opening? I’m not having any of these issues.
Can you load the same file directly in maschine from the disk browser?
I tried it on my laptop (vista) too incase it was a set up issue and I don’t get the audio set up thing (just got a new desktop yesterday and might need to tweak something) but the rest of the same thing still happens.
I also tried putting the edison VST into my NI maschine plugin folder and rescanning everything but that made no difference.
Am I doing a basic understanding fail? ;-D
You’re having to setup the audio every time in Win7 because the demo version of Edison won’t save any changes. I didn’t e en install the standalone because I knew I would never be able to use it outside Maschine…not with save capabilities at least. The reason you have to setup the audio in the first place is probably just the fact that the audio drivers in your tower and laptop differ from each other. I doubt it’s a Vista/Win7 thing. As far as that error in Maschine, I haven’t got anything on that. I haven’t gotten passed my own… Read more »
Should be able to drag with no issues at all. Not sure why you get the error unless somehow you are removing the original file when dragging it.
Am I also writing too much? Haha ;-D
No sir! LOL
Okay guys, so if you purchase the jBridge so that you can run this 32bit plugin, Edison (or any other 32bit plugin), you may have to let, João, the programmer of the jBridge know if you get the digital distortion in Maschine. It’s an issue that he knows about, and has addressed in a Beta version. He sent me the Beta, and got me squared away right quick!
Saint Joe! Man…this thing is dope! Not only does it allow you to just drag and drop the sample into Maschine, it converts it to a wave in the same operation. I don’t believe you mentioned that in the video, and I instantly wondered if it would do that…incase I decided to ever remove Edison from the group for whatever reason. Well, I just got done with my test, and it automatically converts to wave, so when you save with samples, it’s in your project folder now. Awesome!
John Boyle…I couldn’t reproduce your error. 🙁
yeah, I didn’t mention since we all know maschine can’t read mp3, I figured most would realize it’s dropping the wave file in Since dragging out of edison is actually “exporting” the file to wave. 🙂
Once you drag it out, it has nothing to do with edison anymore, so it’s not tied to it at all, it becomes a regular sample in maschine.
Thanks for trying dude.
I tried just opening edison by itself and dragging the selected clip onto the desktop to see what would happen.
This time I got the same message but a wee bit more info.
Could not find this item
This is no longer located in C:\Program Files (x86)\Image-Line\Edison\Project data
So it seems to be something with edison…..I might try putting a sample into that folder to see what happens….
have you tried a reinstall?
nice tutorial,
i installed edison on mac using standalone version in parallels and i am able to drag into my maschine sound slot no problem,
works a charm.
thanks again wicked tut.
hey Symtech…you got Edison working on a mac?
I dont really understand what this means – “using standalone version in parallels” would you mind explaining a little how its done?
When i download it and click on it to open it tries to open with SWF+FLV player but nothing happens on my mac…
any tips much appreciated!
Edison doesn’t work on mac natively. Parallels is a way to install windows operating system on a mac, so I’m assuming that’s what he’s doing. Running Edison on his windows install.
and me personally ..I dont like parallels. I use bootcamp. I wonder if parallels has improved. I tried it few years back and it was wack.
I can’t see that folder where it is meant to be, lol. Unless it is a hidden folder.
I’ll try messing when I come back ‘cos I need to go out for a meal now…..but I may be full of the ole Cider by that point!
Shnarf!!
Awesome profile name by the way Nekkron99, I like it!
I hale from Scorch. 😉
Thanks a lot for this post! Quick, simple, no mess. Perfect!
Word! I really dig the workflow between these two!
Joe you may also like SliceX too for chopping the mp3 faster and dragging the regions over to the individual pads in Maschine. Joint is blazing fast for that.
word fam, I wasn’t really feeling slicex, edison can do the same slicing but I don’t really dig the way they slice, I prefer to slice it up in maschine. But if I was in a daw and chopping samples i’d use slicex, and just play my chops from that.
Really nice man – what a time-saver! Gonna grab this RIGHT NOW! lol
Yes indeed fam, it’s SICK because it’s editor is waaaaaaaaay deeper than Maschine’s. Perfect for long samples/songs you want to get pieces out of or mp3s, etc. It will even chop if you want lol
Saint Joe is a beast & true Souljah for bringing this knowledge to the MT Fam.
I use Fl a lot and discovered this Lil secret on the weekend and was due to post this on the forum but SJ did his thing as usual and here it is.
A lotta peeps dismiss FL as a toy…. If only they knew.
Large up SJ….Dope tutorial.
FL aint no toy! I know some people think so [amateurs who blame their wack beats on the tools they’re using lol], but when you see someone use it who really knows HOW to use it, it’s every bit as good as anything else. I know of FL users who sell their work every day of the week.
Not that I use it myself – wouldn’t know where to start with FL! But I’m loving Edison and I’ve only had it for 5 minutes. 🙂
@Jon, yeah man, I’m open to checkin out anything that will help my workflow. I don’t have much use for FL itself, but some of the IL plugins are dope and I’m glad they can be purchased alone. I may buy FL just because lol, to support it. But I’m def gonna be using Edison a lot fam. It’s a sick editor.
Yeah I’ve just been playing around with timestretch and it makes life so much easier – would be good if the preview duration could be lengthened a tad, but it’s no big thing – being able to change a sample super-quick like that and then drag it to a pad is just awesome.
Like you say, it complements Maschine perfectly.
And it’s pretty cool that Group audio can be dragged into it and then edited and dropped back to a pad – love this thing lol
No doubt fam, I just downloaded FL Studio and some of the IL plugins this week, haven’t used it in years but it’s def not a toy. Heck I just like having Edison son, I’ll buy that just by itself lol.
Now that’s super-DOPE.
Word fam, thanks!
i see Twistwave & Wave Pad for Mac….but i don’t see that drag & drop feature…wow thats very nice Edison
Yeah I’m not sure if there are any that are drag and drop for Mac like this fam.
Thats a great tut. Gonna hold out for a Mac alternative with the drag and drop functionality. Fingers crossed.
Word man, I’m sure there has to be something out there
LOL..I just had to come back and say once again ..this vid is IT !!! Man this is such a time saver. No sleeping on FL OR Edison. I use Both and am not ashamed to say it. FL has made me over 100 times what I payed for and as Jon said earlier… You need to just watch people who KNOW HOW TO USE IT to see. Edison is one of the best editors out… so fast that its crazy. Lets make music
Yeah fam, it’s a really dope editor…I’m glad I can use it by itself yo, it’s like the perfect “advanced” editor for Maschine dude, crazy!
Hey whats up guys? Im trying to catch up and ran into a problem with edison plugin. It wont let me drag and drop while inside maschine, but the standalone version will. Any idea why?
Rico Dinero
I couldn’t D&D either in Windows 7 on my laptop, but I don’t know why. Not a problem because I use XP on my main PC and it works fine, but it would be useful on the laptop also. You using W7?
I don’t know, I didn’t run into any of the issues you guys are having with drag and drop. Maybe set the edison program to “run as administrator” and see if that fixes it. It sounds like a location issue to where the file is.
Drag and Drop works on my Windows 7 tower.
Mmmm… Not sure then.
Hey guys, Read the previous posts, I’m having the same drag and drop problems with edison. Tried everything I could think of to solve it from reinstall to creating the folder that it thinks is missing but still no joy, not sure why….However- I installed the free download of sliceX and the drag and drop works fine (plus you can drop it on a sound and not have to use it like an audio effect) the only thing is sliceX does not seem to to have the timestretch jobbie. But if you are just interested in the loading of an… Read more »
For the guys with problems with edison if you open it as a standalone, select a part and try to drag it onto your desktop for talking sake, it comes up with an error message saying that the sample could not be found and tells you where it should be at? That’s how it is for me. So it is defo a problem with edison and not maschine software or as a vst as that is it being ran as a standalone. It seems like edison creates a new file snippet of the sample when you drag and drop that… Read more »
Maybe try installing Edison as Administrator, or set it to “run program as administrator”
I don’t have any drag and drop problems at all with Edison.
What is the MAC equivalent? That program seems dope, but I’m on MAC!
No one has found a mac equivalent yet lol. At least not with the drag and drop capabilities and such.
What up SJ.
Thanks for the heads up. How did you load edison as a group?
Sup fam, I just loaded it on the first group slot
Just select the blue group tab and add it as an effect (FX)
OOps – added my post at same time as you lol
lol, Indeed!
Sweet vid Saintjoe ya’ll got deep on this one. Can i just bring Fl. studios Vst’s folder over in Maschine?
Not all FL plugins are vst, some are FL only, so you can only use the one’s that operate as vsts. Which I believe those are the one’s that cost extra.
Hey Saintjoe, I ain’t sure if anyone found a solution to the drag and drop in Windows 7. I found it to be administrator rights stopping it. You have to go in and turn off security notifications. Mine works fine now. Thanks.
Yeah I suggested installing or running as admin earlier, glad that taking security off fixed it!
Thanks Saintjoe.
yessir!
That was sooooo dope! I’m already familiar with edison so I will definitely be using it with Maschine.
I’ve fallen in love with Edison, it’s great for editing larger samples inside Maschine as well as mp3s, timestretching, etc.
awwwww Saint Joe Hearts Edison 🙂
I see…thx for the explanation saintjoe
No doubt fam, glad to help!
KNOCK!!!!! Where you at with the MAC equivalent!?! I need something like that on MAC. This is the one and only time MAC has a CON 🙁 lol!
IRonic…Fam I been searching and searching like indiana Jones up in here . Still have not found anything for Mac like edison. I am still searching. One thing I am sure about is that SOMEWHERE someone has made something that will work. Just a matter of searching it out. This is a strike against Mac…lol
Hey guys you can use FXpansion Geist as an alternative for MAC. You can time stretch samples, pitch samples, drag & drop samples over to Maschine, chop the samples up…the only thing it can’t do is open the mp3 format I guess because most producers tend to use wav or aiff because the higher quality in lieu of mp3.
I assumed they were looking for more of a straight editor though. As far as the mp3 thing, its probably one of the questions I get and see asked the most, you’d be surprised how many people sample mp3 files, from bedroom producers to industry vets lol. Geist is another alternative but if you come across something that is more like this, a straight editor, for mac keep us posted. I don’t know of any that load as a plugin or standalone and have drag and drop capabilities.
You know what…I can’t get the time stretch feature to work. I activate it, and the window pops up, but when I turn the knobs, it doesn’t sound any different. Is there a setting I have to enter before I can use it?
nope, just change it, depends on what settings you’re changing, but it works.
Yeah I turned every knob and none of them did anything. I can do it in Kontakt after, but I would like to be able to do it all in one step if I can.
not sure what to tell ya, there are no special settings to use it in Edison, I just turned the knobs.
Word. I’ll give it another go.
Yeah…I figured it out. I had to rewatch the video to see if I was doing something different. I wasn’t pressing the Preview button. Since my selection was already playing and looping I figured that it was already in preview mode. Silly rabbit…smh
lol, it’s all good fam! Glad you got it!
Saintjoe i can’t seem to see ANY videos. do you know of any problems
No sir, maybe upgrade your flash player or something? What do you see?
hey Saintjoe, I know it’s been asked so many times but I stopped reading up on it when I realised it wouldnt be a reality anytime soon and am now curious again – do you have any lowdown on when (or if?) NI will update Maschine adding timestretch?
THx
All I can say is that it’s being worked on, but don’t know when it will finally hit the public, I imagine when they feel it’s right.
what about using ableton, or battery as a sample editor? would you suggest either for that purpose?
you could use either I suppose, but ableton isn’t a plugin and doesn’t support drag and drop, battery doesn’t support the drag and drop out of the samples. However if you wish to edit in them then export and bring it into maschine you sure can do that.
Too bad it is PC only. Hopefully time stretching will be implemented in the future.
yeah I feel ya bro
when timestretching using Edison what’s the best way to do the milliseconds calculations lets say you know a loop is 70 bmp but you want to fit it in a 82 bmp project?
I usually just play around with it till I like how it sounds, I will have to look at it again to see if you can specify a bpm/tempo, I thought you could.