Hey Fam! This tutorial is for those using Maschine 2.0 with Studio One 2 and you want to record your MIDI in real-time.
As you know, the MIDI setup within a DAW was changed drastically in 2.0 and it messed up the workflow for a lot of people due to not being able to route Maschine like we were used to.
You would get a bunch of MIDI feedback and it was just basically a pain in the neck.
Well in this video I show a workaround that may help give you a little bit of that workflow back until we can get an official update to address the situation.
I’ve been through lots of different ways of doing this and didn’t want to share a video until I had one I liked and that I felt would be useful to many users.
This way you can quickly switch between recording the MIDI and editing your kits or sounds without having to switch modes or use multiple instances.
As usual, if you have questions just ask!
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yeah bro….this is GREAT !
cool man!
what folder do you put host midi
You can put it aanywhere and browse to it or in your user folder in the groups folder.
Cool appreciate it
No problem!
Can you drag midi into studio one without it being a vst
You can but there must be something wise for the midi to trigger to get any sound.
I appreciate your site it is very helpful. I know you are a busy cat…I just have a two questions to ask….my typing sucks….770 256 8222. Rod
What do you mean wise
Typo, I’m mobile. Meant to say something “else” to trigger.
GENIUS!
Thanks a lot for this… And the Ableton one.
No problem fam!
What is your take on the mac mini…I currently use a pc …I really never had processor problems until I got 2.0 and komplete ultimate installed….now my processor seems to run harder…I currently have 6 gigs of ram…but I am upgrading it to 16 gigs to see if this helps…..what do you think?
ram will help if you’re using heavy sample libraries, what type of processor and audio interface do you have?
2.3 processor and a focusrite 8i6 I think..its the red one with the two line inputs in front….
Maybe try increasing your buffer setting on the 8i6, seems like your processor should be fine, is it quad core?
Yes…actually now that you mention I think I turned it down…I was getting a message to increase buffer size when using melodyne in studio one……do you do all your sequencing in maschine?….I really was thinking of sequencing in studio one for a more room for creativity….I hate that maschine does not let you drag in mp3s
Yeah I mainly sequence in Maschine, however if you feel more creative taking stuff into a daw you should try it out.
My buffer is set to 256
try raising it up to 768 or 1024 and see if it helps your cpu
I hope I am not buggin….you are the first cat that has really been helpful….since I moved down to the A from philly my resources have been limited…I am going perfect my studio one maschine studio set up then start posting on youtube…..if you ever need help with what your doing….I got you..whatever…..thanks
No doubt fam, it’s all good, glad to help. Lemme know if you have any other questions.
I keep getting an error when I try to load the file. Am I doing something wrong???
What error are you getting? Do you have the most recent version of Maschine?
Yup Had to update to newest version of M 2.0… Thanks fam back in action with Studio 1/2
No doubt fam
I did what you said now my shit is stuttering bad and I can not get it to stop
You raised it up and it’s stuttering more? It should stutter less if you set the buffer higher.
I guess set it lower again and check to see if there is an updated driver for the 8i6
My kontakt 5 does not load sometimes
What happens when you try to load it? Do you have all updates installed from service center?
For instance I have giant used in a track..everything is there but the sound is not playing…I see the midi being transmitted but the giant track does not play
Do you have it loaded in Maschine or in Studio One? Either way if you see it being trigger it should make sound unless you have it muted by accident.
Where do the sounds go in computer when you download software….a guy at guitar center said I should move the sounds when in installed komplte ultimate to another hard drive because having everything on one drive is raising my cpu…..what do you think….I never had issues until I installed KU and maschine 2.0
Having your sounds on the same drive will not cause your cpu to go up, the only reason people move them to their own drive is for loading times and allowing your boot drive to handle other stuff. But people use them on the same drive with no issues at all.
So why do you think my cpu is spiking now….it was not before I changed to 2.0 and KU
Could be that you’re computer can’t handle a lot of plugins maybe. What type of sounds are you using when the cpu spikes?
Can you separate battery drums inside maschine
Yeah mean by audio channel or having them on individual pads? You can load battery samples directly to the pads, or if you have battery loaded you can route the audio by right clicking on a cell and setting the output to one of the direct outs.
Hey fam I’m kinda new to all this so bare with me. Just tried that host file on my Macbook Pro OSX VERSION 10.9.1 running with Mavericks and it wouldn’t work?? also tried doing one of your tricks to get my Maschine MK2 to work with my Studio One 2 professional and nothings seems to work?? I feel so lost and would appreciate some help or advice.
Did you put Maschine in MIDI mode when trying to use the template file and open it through controller editor?
No was just trying to open the host file from the file folder on the left side of the screen in maschine 2.0 software. I also tried dragging drums from 2.0 to studio one and couldn’t get that to work either. I watched how you performed such tasks in the tutorials and just tried to follow along but had no luck. I’m pretty GREEN so my apologies again :/
Oh you mean the group file, yeah you have to setup that as well as the kit your wish to trigger. They made it very difficult to work with in the update, hopefully they fix it so we don’t have to do all of this. I would watch the video again, pausing if you need to, to make sure you’ve done each step, especially the midi routing.
Thanks fam I’ll look into it again and get back to you if need be. Hopefully they do something soon O:-) lol
No problem, let me know fam!
how can i tell if i am using the vst as apposed to the au plug in
I believe it would say, AU is only available on mac
nevermind i found it
Cool!
I assume I would need midi cables from maschine hardware to my baby face?
Nope, just the USB connection
Saint Joe: On the first step, I loaded a drum kit and then went to group B to have the MIDI output destination be ‘host’ and when i click on ‘dest.’ it only has the option ‘none’. Do you know what i am overlooking? Actually, my Studio One 2 software is not able to load after i click on it, i wonder if that has any factor.
What can’t load after you click on it? Do you have Maschine open as a plugin in S1?
Do you know where/how you get S1 to recognize Maschine as a plugin so i can get the MIDI output destination in Maschine to pop up the ‘host’ option?
In s1 preferences menu there is a section to setup your plugins
Hi, trying to figure out which section of S1 preferences to set this up on; in the S1 edit section, it is receiving from Maschine Controller and sending to its Virtual Output; yet no ‘host’ pops up in Maschine output.
Go to: Studio One>Options>Locations>VST pLugins
In Locations, there is User Data, File Types, Sound Sets, Instrument LIbrary; no VST plugins
Having watched the video again, i wonder if this tutorial can also apply to custom made drum kits as my songs are all made from individual drum sounds.
It doesn’t matter if they are your own kits or internal kits, the midi setup is the same.
What version do you have? If you have Artist you can’t use external plugins and that may be the issue.
I do have Artist…ugh, any suggestions how to work around?
Nope, you can’t load plugins in Artist from what I remember.
Very newcomer question here, S1 ‘sees’ Maschine but when i play the track i can’t seem to get an input/signal in S1 and have tried record button, etc; how do i get it to record into S1?
What do you mean it “sees” it, what are you trying to do? If you have Artist it will not load as a plugin so you could only use it as a general midi controller.
So i can’t even send the song from Maschine at the master level into one track in S1 artist?
Only if you export it out of Maschine and drag the wav files into S1.
Thanks for your help, the master track finally is playing in S1 Artist!
Cool man 🙂
Well, now i have a more basic problem, my S1is locked up, it’s trying to open/load with several listings of ‘loading’ and ‘starting’ after i click on it to open; the rainbow timer just keeps spinning, and i have to force quit. Not sure how to unlock it.
i think i’ll contact their technical support on this one
Hmmm, have you tried to reboot your computer? Does it get stuck at the screen listing all the startup info or it doesn’t make it that far?
( this was your response to a fellow member of mt) Go to: Studio One>Options>Locations>VST pLugin…
Can you show me a screen shot of what should be inside of the go to studio one>options>locations>vst plugin because s1 no longer see’s my mashine studio as being installed…. Thanks for the all the hard work you put into this, I really do appreciate this… Also can we make videos describing the issue more detailed and send them to you???
So you want to know the process for making sure Studio is seen as a controller? I can make a video for you if you want real quick that may help you understand the process, just let me know man 🙂
I just notice how you customized your maschine studio, Just when I thought the white was stellar by itself you go and just turn the unit all the way up… I’m asking for these now ,saint joe send me the customs lol. Also so glad I didn’t have to experience this method, thankful for 2.1
Hahahaha, just parts from different things, the knobs I had from my mk2 kits, knobs from a fantom and random volume knobs. I always like trying to change things up a little bit 🙂
have they fixed this yet Saint Joe?
The only thing they changed was midi batch to setup the pads as notes instead of going one by one
Here’s a video showing the midi batch, other than that, it’s still the same. https://maschinetutorials.com/maschine-2-1-recording-midi-into-ableton-live-9-workaround-update/
I would like to use the sounds from maschine, how would I go about doing that
It would be as shown in the video on this page, but you can use midi batch setup instead of setting up the pads one by one. Assuming you want to record the MIDI from Maschine in MIDI mode. I just posted the other link to show the midi batch setup option.
This tutorial is close to what I pm’d you on saint joe. The only difference is that I’m using SSD4 as a plugin going multi outs in Studio One. Do I have to use SSD4 in maschine and then route to Studio one?
No, if you just want to use the pads to trigger it, put maschine in midi mode.
Saint Joe,
Where can I get the template for the group you created? I’ve been trying to take my tracks from Maschine 2.0 to studio one.
Sorry fam, didn’t get notification of this message for some reason.
You actually don’t need to do it this way, but there wasn’t a template I just made it and saved it. They changed it in 2.1 though you can just do the normal midi batch setup
https://maschinetutorials.com/maschine-2-1-recording-pattern-or-scene-performance-as-midi-in-studio-one/
Saint Joe dropping the knowledge, so glad we don’t have to do this anymore, glad to be back fam
No doubt fam, this was some nonsense lol
I need to download the file, but it’s not up anymore
Fixed it, but you no longer need this as they changed the midi settings in the next updates after this.
Check this out https://maschinetutorials.com/maschine-2-2-recording-live-midi-into-studio-one/
Hey saintjoe. I enjoy watching your vedios. I have logic. I know this particular vedio was for studio one. I also know you have intergration vedios for logic x. But out of curiosity will this same “host to Midi” technique that you did in studio one work in logic?
Hey John, this will not work in Logic because AU plugins in general do not send MIDI output.