I put together a free tutorial video for the entire Maschine community to try to explain the Maschine 1.7 update and some of the confusion it’s causing.
I want to share what plugins, presets, and products you should see in the browser.
Why you may be missing some kits or samples, and how to get them back.
As well as why you don’t “need” komplete 8 to enjoy the new functions of Maschine 1.7
Share this with any Maschine user you know to save them from the many headaches some have had when updating.
Good lookin out for this bro! I was wondering on Battery and the Kontakt libraries that I have like Alicia’s Keys, etc….. Thanks again for your quick response!
No doubt fam!
Thanks for the info, it’s most appreciated. I’d like to add, from my experience anyway, for users to be patient if they run into a wlidcard.dll error. This thing drove me crazy for over an hour until I resolved it. Apparently some .dll corruption of sorts can happen (nothing serious) where you may need to run a registry scan and/or log the .dll’s name and retrieve a fresh one from microsoft (being it’s a known issue w/ Win 7). NI did us a solid by incorporating previous sound packs (i.e. Massive Threat, etc.) with some of the updates (imo), however… Read more »
Not sure what that’s all about, never heard that one before, maybe just a coincidence lol. Either way, glad to help. The drums/percs from Urb Arsenal still reside in Kore, you can also pull them up directly via Kontakt but they aren’t automatically shown in the browser as Kontakt presets. I’m working on some presets, I may do those specifically for Maschine.
Thanks for looking out Saintjoe. That rescan tip saved me hours I was never gonna get back for sure!
Yes indeed, always something to remember when that happens, usually does it automatically when your database is updated.
I’m glad you dropped this video on what’s really going on with N.I. and these updates. I felt betrayed cause I have some of the products in K8 ex. Razor, and felt like they should’ve showed up in Maschine 1.7. Next time N.I. needs to release all updates to all products at the same time, instead of making previous Komplete owners wait. I don’t like to bite the hand that feeds, but N.I. screwed up public relations wise. I know N.I. is moving away from Kore but that’s screwed up too. Anyway thanks for clearing this all up because honestly… Read more »
Yeah, well, to be technical, they did release the updates at the same time, in K8 😉
They just need to go back and release the updates for those that don’t have k8. As you can imagine, everything was focused on getting the k8 ready for shipping by the deadline.
But yeah, just wanted to put it out there to help folks understand and also show that you don’t “need” k8 to benefit, you may just have to wait a lil longer for everything to get the updated installers they neeed.
Thanks for the heads up on the problem! I haven’t even looked at the up date yet.
I’ll wait until things dye down and issues with the update have been resolved.
In my experience theirs always a big hype from the providers to raise people expectations………….
There actually aren’t really any issues with the update itself, just with those that do not have k8 with all the latest installers, but I’m sure NI will take care of that.
I wanted to use the update (and the missing sounds) to redo my whole library, like we discussed in the forums. I deleted all the user paths but if I browse my files some folders still say “rescan” instead of “import”. So now I have to rescan, retag, delete unused tags… very annoying… NI needs to improve the library!
The tags are stored with your files/samples. That’s why it says “rescan” but I’ve found if you open the folder and just highlight the multiple samples inside, you can do an import again lol. It’s just remembering that you imported the folder previously, but if you highlight multiple samples, you can do the import/tag thing again.
Oh, thanks a mil Joe – I think you know A LOT of people will benefit from this tutorial.
I’ll have to come back to this one, and check when I’m not running out the door.
No doubt brother, definitely saw the need, also had an MT fam member suggest it so that confirmed my thoughts on doing it.
Just a quick question about the Rescan function at 1:10 –
– when you hit ‘Rescan’, does it rescan ALL the listed locations, or do you have to select one, press ‘Rescan’, then select another, and repeat until you have gone all the way through?
All in one 🙂
Right, cause I have a bad memory of setting up a user path the first time I attempted to import samples, and then accidentally importing ALL of my samples on my computer – without tagging!
🙁
I don’t want to do that again, thats for sure.
Oh, just one other thing – when you showed your Trillian presets –
….I take it that importing third-party presets must be done one at a time, but using the ‘Save As’ user function, right?
(Hmmmm….if that is the case, I might only just import my faves, then!)
Yep, and that’s what I did with Trilian, I don’t use everything in there. When I first got it, I went through and rated the presets I liked. Those are what I imported 🙂
i like my 1.6 just fine… wont be updating till the make major improvements for beat junkies like me lol…… browsing presents isnt enuff for me to update.
I feel you, but I always suggest running the latest regardless if you need the updates or not. For compatibility reasons. For instance, anything we share from this point forward, will be created with 1.7, anyone with 1.6 will not be able to open the files. But as always, you don’t have to upgrade at all, but it won’t hurt anything 😉
Thanks for the info.
No problem!
Battery Library Importer is available today.
yep 🙂
Good Looking Out SJ! you sharper than a razor blade bro!
i have to say I was beginning to feel cheated when i heard the news about K8 but after downloading all the updates fo K7 and 1.7, .I’m a lil happier and this vid clarified a lotta things so well done & thanks
No doubt fam, yeah, lots of confusion going on with this one, NI wasn’t very clear on the update and what you should/shouldn’t see. Just trying to help folks understand and keep people from being frustrated!
Appreciate the explanation. Thanks
No problem.
Huh? Battery Library Importer?
where do you get this from apart from K8?
If you have Battery 3 already, open service center, it will be in there as an update 🙂
Did anyone have any problems with the controller not working after doing the 1.7 upgrade. Have reloaded the controller editor and drivers to no avail. Will reload software next unless someone can help.
Make sure the controller is NOT plugged in when you do the update. Unplug it and run the update again and install the driver, or run controller editor. Reboot, then plug your controller in. Are you on Mac or PC?
PC. Yeah i already tried that.
go to start menu, type in services.msc, look in there and see if NIHardwareService is in there, and if it doesn’t say started, start it.
Thanks for your help, have a couple of things to try. Gonna be busy the next few days so I will let you know.
HELLO SAINT JOE can you contact me via email i have a question about machine and i can really use for help. if you reach me by email i will give you my contact number so i can speak with you direct about my question. Thank you and hope to hear from you soon.
You can use the contact form in the support area to send me an email with your question, thanks!
saintjoe you are the best! you know your shit!!!
Glad to help fam!!
This is how I fixed it: Reinstalled the 1.7 update making sure not to check the mikro option during the install. Back in buisness now.
Cool, sounds like the driver just got removed during the initial upgrade. Glad you working now!
Yo Saint Joe!
THNX for your help!
I installed the update with the new Komplete elements from NI.
However, only Kontakt presets can be browsed and loaded from maschine.
Browsing and loading Reaktor presets does not work.
“error loading name of preset” appears.
Do you know what this could be?
Thnx
jay
sup fam, make sure Reaktor is active in your plugin list in the Maschine preferences.
thnx Reaktor is active in the list.
I actualy should rephrase the issue:
Reaktor is available and presets can be browsed but when I load the preset from within maschine the message:
” Error loading preset appears”
also the message not a valid %1% file appears. Maybe I should reinstall reaktor?
pretty strange…
if you load Reaktor manually can you load presets in Reaktor?
I would try installing Reaktor as a first resort, just to see if that fixes anything.
meanwhile I will see what I can find out, I haven’t seen this issue previously.
Did you make sure that the new vst plugin got installed in the proper folder where Maschine is looking for your plugins?
Cheers got it running properly. : )
Deleted all reaktor files and then reinstalled the player and komplete elements.
To answer your question before i couldn’t manually load the presets in Reaktor, However it did work standalone.
Thnx for your help!
good news!
Man I rescanned and I’m still missing samples …….ZaPs , lasers etc…..thinking about downgrading back to 1.6 …..can you help me out
make sure you rescanned your factory library and not just the user library
Did both……tHe user library had an add tab ….factory only had scan
That’s the only spots you need to scan, what do you mean by “missing”?
You could also go to the disk tab, and browse directly to the Maschine library and right click on the specific sample folder you are missing, and do a rescan on it.
Did both……
My one shots group only has my distortion, and glitch samples under type….no other Type listings…..under one shots in general with no type selected it list a few more but not nearly as many as were in there with 1.6…..want to have everything recategorized unde proper type and subtype…….FINNA try what you just said……thanks for your time to homie
Cool fam, lemme know. Sounds like a weird issue though.
just finish installing k8 n 1.7..power up maschine..my samples all missing…this video is very helpful…straight forward…now my kits all are back…thankx joe 🙂
p/s: kind of late to comment…haha…just update to 1.7 coz just installed komplete 8…bout to mess around..
Glad to help fam!
what I like to do with my sample pack is store them in their own library with subfolders for drum hits, one shots etc. when i install the mashine 1.7. update all my custom made sample folders are gone and don’t come back with any rescanning. i guess they are stored in the older .dat file thou. any chance of getting them back or avoiding this to happen when updating? thanks.
You have to add that folder to your user area and rescan it
refitted new hd to mac reinstalled maschine on new hd cannot import project samples from old drive into current version some samples are seen most are blank is this a version conflict 1.6 to 7 or where i have done fresh install.
does the location need to change ??
Add your sample folder to the user libraries in preferences and rescan
Just watched the video. My ? Is about Battery. I see it just like you have shown it here. Got the update on it like you said. Should I be able to load those kits at the bottom? When I try to load one, one sound from the kit shows up on one pad. The kit is not on all pads as it should be. I don’t have Komplete 8, but again I did get that update where Maschine see’s Battery.
You have to put the pad in “keyboard mode” to access the rest of the sounds in a Battery patch. It doesn’t load like Maschine kits.
Press shift+pad mode to get access to the rest of the sounds in the kit.
Good look bro. Thats tight how quick the response is on this site. I’ll send more people your way.
No doubt fam, glad you got it handled.
can i go back 2 1. 6
what are you trying to do? What issue are you having? You can go back by uninstalling 1.7 and reinstalling 1.6 from your disk.
sJ man it keeps saying plug-in not found , & I’m rescanning all my user paths, plus I don’t have komplete8….. #steaming!!!!
what plugin not found? what plugin are you trying to load? what plugins have you added to the preferences? I need more information to help you.
Man I went back & re-installed & it’s still showing version 1.7, I have no play-back or sound, that up-date messed me up!
man, I’m really not sure what you have going on lol, did you uninstall it before you reinstalled? Did you go into your audio preferences and make sure it has your audio interface checked properly? What plugin is “not found”?
email me help@MaschineTutorials.com
I did what you said and rescaned, and I still have nothing in my factory
It doesnt even rescan, it just blips for an 1/8th a second.
are you rescanning the factory location and not the user, is there an actual folder in your factory library location? Is it the right folder? did you move anything or did you install it to a different location?
IDK. Idk what I did. I thought itd be as easy as installing the update. I DID however do what you said by uninstalling, so I can reinstall, and now it is asking me to to reinstall the original install disk. AHHHHHHHHH. WTF with this update man. 🙁
it’s an update, you can’t just uinstall it and reinstall, as it has nothing to update. as for what happened I’m not sure, a simple rescan is all that is usually needed when going to a new database, so unless it got installed in a different location i’m not sure what when down. But since you installed it, you’ll have to re install the original disc, I suggest installing all updates in order before you ever open it this time so nothing gets moved around.
What do you mean by all the updates in order?
Above in the thread you said this “man, I’m really not sure what you have going on lol, did you uninstall it before you reinstalled? Did you go into your audio preferences and make sure it has your audio interface checked properly? What plugin is “not found”?
email me help@MaschineTutorials.com“. So thats what I did. I uninstalled it. And tried to reinstall and I have to do it all over again with the original disk. This is bonkers.
That was in response to someone else’s problem, which wasn’t even the same issue you were having. He was trying to go back to a previous version, that’s why I asked him if he uninstalled Before reinstalling the old version because he reinstalled but it still had the new version. You’re issue was different, you didn’t need to uninstall, we could have fixed it as it was, now you have to reinstall the original disk.
Yea SJ I’m in good spirits but I am frustrated, my hardware is still saying version 1.7, but I re-installed 1.6 but I still have no audio, I see the pads changing, & im running it through my audiobox usb! plase we need to talk man…..
What do you mean your hardware is saying 1.7? Are you on a mac? It’s possible you’re opening the old shortcut. Also in your audio settings, did you check the routing tab? Make sure it didn’t get reset to where it’s assigned to your audiobox but the outputs aren’t routed.
No PC, but the hardware is still saying 1.7, but i re-installed 1.6
@david bullock Baily, what up bro. I feeeel the irritation! You are just going to have to literally start over. Uninstall EVERYTHING! Then go in your program folder and if there is “anything to do with Maschine, delete it. Go to your desktop and delete the shortcut. Go to your trash and delete the trash. Follow your manual to a T bro. Pay close attention to where you want your library, on your main harddrive, or an external. Open Maschine after the setup. Test to see if 1.6 works, sound and everything. Then do your update. Not saying your not… Read more »
Where are you seeing the os version on your hardware? What does the software say? If you open maschine software click the NI logo in the top right corner and it will tell you what version it is.
Yea SJ, I have the 1.6 now but still no sound I emailed you bro…
sounds like the routing isn’t set properly, check the output routing in your audio midi settings
So do I lose all of my factory sounds and samples that came with the machine when I opened the box?
if you reinstall from the original disk all your sounds will be there
@rushaa, man still no progress re-installed everything, & i lost my guitar rig4!!
Bro, how did you lose guitar rig? Did you uninstall it too? Did you add it back in maschine’s preferences so it knows where to find it?
I got one pattern back that I saved, but all of my loops are missing. I made a pattern and loop and named them both rediculous hip-hop, but only the pattern is there now, no loops, none of themmmmmm. WTF NI. the pattern I had saved is 16 bars an andf when I apply it to any kit or wahev, it only runs for 4 measures.