@ 1:03 – when you show your user bank, with the plug-ins that you have imported – just to connfirm – you have only imported the plug-ins themself – ie. NOT the presets of the plug-ins, right?
Oh, and how do you feel about the limited tagging of certain presets and sounds in Komplete 8, as opposed to the more detailed tagging in Kore, and the individual NI products themself, such as Absynth, Massive etc?
Well being that Maschine only has 3 banks, they had to modify the tagging so it will not look like KORE, but I think it makes sense in a way that meshes with the current way Maschine sounds are browsed. So it feels right.
Its funny you say that about Maschine only having 3 banks of tagging –
….I look at the hardware, and think that they could possibly modify the graphical interface of the Browsing function, so that the filter spans across BOTH screens, and therefore two, or three extra levels of tagging could be facilitated.
Maybe it would be too tight, though? I still think that the tagging could be better implemented.
I’ve always thought at least one more would be cool, but then I got used to it and it’s not a problem anymore. Though I with all the K8 stuff, more tags would be cool, but again, you’ll find it works well with the browser.
Mainly the browsing, but there are other bug fixes, etc. A few new additions like “pinning” pages. So when you go to say the mute page, you can “pin” it. So when you close it and open it again, you don’t have to lock it again, it will stay “pinned”
makes it easier to perform different things like note repeat, etc because you don’t have to keep locking the page anymore.
Haha… I just got a little over-excited there. I been wanting to get a music making device for my phone for sometime, but wondered about the possibility of integrating into Maschine or Live. So yeah, kind curious to see what they do with it. But the update = GREAT! 😀 My Komplete 7 content is browsable = Win! (i thought they would only make K8 integrate, in order to get more people to upgrade for the workflow) This is soooooooo good! But…looks like 1.7 has cleared my projects from the Maschine browser 🙁 Opening them one-by-one manually from the OSX… Read more »
Nope, remember many of the products/synths in k7 are freely updatable to the latest versions. Only stuff you don’t get is kontakt 5 and guitar rig 5 as well as the new fx in k8.
battery requires the “battery kit importer” which comes with k8, I would imagine they will make it available to battery/maschine owners in the future but I’m not for sure.
I just downloaded 1.7 from the service center to my desktop. I clicked on the new 1.7 icon and it’s asking me to re-install maschine. Is that right? Do we have to re-install everything?
I’m an hardware guy, not too savvy with software. I want to make sure so, I don’t screw anything up. lol
Maybe you can do a tutorial on how to install the updates for us not too savvy software people. Thanks!
No you don’t have to reinstall, not sure what that message is. Make sure you have maschine unplugged when you do the update though. Are you on a Mac or PC?
Kontakt 5 shows up in the browser, not Kontakt 4. Razor will need an updated installer for it’s presets to show up. I would expect NI to start sending out those in the future just not sure exactly when.
Yes I have an updated/newer version of Razor, there is not updates in the service center for it, I assume NI will send one out. My installer is the newer one.
no nothing was there, got it sorted though! its all on disk tso when i import, it goes to the user bank with my subtypes and types already there so its all good…
the Komplete elements aren’t showing up under the keyboard symbol/instrument folder, and it says no importable data in folders when i go to import from disk.. does it not register elements only the full versions i wonder?
Have you downloaded reaktor 5 player and kontakt 5 player? I don’t have elements installed so I’m not sure on that one. But I think you’d need the newer versions of the players?
yeah downloaded the updates the other day,, but there are 3 updates in the service center but looks like they where updates from Kontact 4.2.4 and old version of reaktor 5.6.1 and rig 4.2.1… downloading them now will let you guys know if it works
Yeah I don’t know about the k elements, if you have guitar rig player 5 and kontakt player 5, that stuff should show up. Sounds like you have the full version of reaktor, which should be showing up in your browser.
its still pretty quick getting the stuff though the usual method, don’t mind using the mouse until i get the K8U… and if its gets sorted in the meantime happy days!…
I did a rescan of my user library. Some of my samples still weren’t showing up. I manually added them but i notice i still don’t have the new user bank like the one shown in the video
How about for your kits, or plugin modules or custom instruments. Save a new plugin preset or edit an instrument and save it, it should show up then. I don’t think it shows for samples, but only
for stuff that you actually save from inside of Maschine.
I can’t believe it! I turned off my anti virus and it installed. All the other updates went in with it on so I don’t get it?! Sorry for the bother dude!
Hey Joe – I did a rescan of my libraries in Preferences – but I still have no ‘User’ tags at any levels of the browser.
Any ideas?
I don’t mind re-opening all of my projects one-by-one to have them show up in my Maschine Browser – but boy, am I ever glad that I only imported a small fraction of my sample library into Maschine before the update. None of my samples are visible in the library! 🙁
yeah, that’s do to the rescan thing, you need to rescan your user library so it finds that stuff again. or you can just manually load them, or go to the folder they are in and rescan it.
Its great that NI is so pro-active on the upgrade front – but a little bit more documentation on how to properly do the install, and check that everything is fine with your libraries would REALLY help.
‘…Nope, remember many of the products/synths in k7 are freely updatable to the latest versions. Only stuff you don’t get is kontakt 5 and guitar rig 5 as well as the new fx in k8…’
AHA! Just saw this.
Just so I’m clear….things like absynth, reaktor, massive, FM& have recieved free updates – even though I haven’t upgraded to K8?
…hence they are browsable in Maschine now?
…BUT….
Kontakt and Guitar Rig have not – hence they are both NOT browsable?
Hey SJ. Great to see the 1.7 update. I am having an issue getting all of my plug-ins to show up under the new “piano browser tab”. I have scanned and re-scanned not sure where or what folder it should point to so they show up. I have also updated all of my plugin from NI. NEED YOUR HELP…!!
Thanks,
ChillWill
Hi SJ.. I have the following NI plug-ins which have all the most up to date versions. – Komplete Elements – Reaktor 5 – Kontakt 4 Player – Kore Player I also read something about not being able to use them because of 32bit over 64bit versions. Currently I believe I am using the 32bit version of Maschine. If this happens to be the issue, how do you launch an instance of 64bit Maschine. Like someone else stated a quick vid showing how to make sense of all of this would be great. Thanks for all of your hard work… Read more »
The only one of those that will show it’s presets in 1.7 would be Reaktor 5 if you have updated it to the latest version. Nothing else is designed to show in Maschine from your list. You can still use them the regular way, but you will not have instant preset browsing.
none of my plugins or instruments show up when I click on the new “piano button”. I don´t own komplete but shouldn´t all my instruments show up? My Plugins are all 32 Bit as my operating system. I tried to rescan but still nothing shows up.
Thanks for your help, keep up the good work!
No, this is not a plugin list, it’s the presets. My non NI plugins are there because I have saved presets for them into my library. Your plugin list still shows the regular way, via the drop down menu on the module.
The keyboard icon is only for presets from Komplete or presets that you have saved from your other plugins.
Those show up in your regular plugin list, unless you’ve saved presets from them. Reaktor presets should show up with the latest update if you’ve installed the latest version of Reaktor.
The piano button is for presets only, not plugins. So if you don’t have any presets you’ve saved from your plugins, or you don’t have the newer versions of the NI plugins, nothing will show up there.
O.K. so it only shows the saved presets and not the actual instruments. I misunderstood that point when I watched your video.
Thanks for the fast answer. Now lets get back to maschine. lol
Damn Sj, it looked like you got slammed with a lot of similar questions on the update. I think you did a great job helping everyone, also I think you should do a quick vid explaining why it certain elements may not work…like in my situation where I only have the players and Kore packs.
it seems like everything is working good so far……I have komplete 7, is it suppose to show under the keyboard tab at the top left or is that only for komplete 8 intergration
Hey saint since you have komplete 8 ,since this integration,can we drag samples directly from maschine into kontakt 5 ?
Say you want to drag from the library from maschine or from one of the sound pads and drag it over to Kontakt ?
I agree fam, I’ve been asking for this for a while. I’d like to be able to drag from the Maschine browser into plugins I have loaded into Maschine. Makes sense, we will see if they make it happen. Check the video I just posted though, may give you some ideas 🙂
Man, so frustrating. I have a fresh install of both Komplete 8 ult, and maschine 1.7 and I had to install the content file of Komplete on an external hard drive.
Now Maschine can’t find any of the plugins or presets and none of them show up in the browser.
I have scanned and re-scanned the folder I can see them all in too, and it just will not recognize them.
Where did you install the product files themselves, not the content? And are you sure you’re running 1.7? Make sure the product/programs are installed on your c drive, the content itself can be on an external. Also, make sure you are running 1.7, go into Maschine, click the NI logo, and check.
Did you already run the plugins in standalone mode first? Also, if that doesn’t work, I would try running just the product installers again individually, not installing the content again, just the program install.
That was fast lol yall dont play
MT baby, you know we stay on it for ya! lol
What time were you up SJ? Maaaan… good morning and thank you!
Quick like ninja…. 😉
Nice SJ. And Fast! You guys don’t mess aorund!
@ 1:03 – when you show your user bank, with the plug-ins that you have imported – just to connfirm – you have only imported the plug-ins themself – ie. NOT the presets of the plug-ins, right?
Oh, and how do you feel about the limited tagging of certain presets and sounds in Komplete 8, as opposed to the more detailed tagging in Kore, and the individual NI products themself, such as Absynth, Massive etc?
No, I have presets from selected plugins
Well being that Maschine only has 3 banks, they had to modify the tagging so it will not look like KORE, but I think it makes sense in a way that meshes with the current way Maschine sounds are browsed. So it feels right.
Its funny you say that about Maschine only having 3 banks of tagging –
….I look at the hardware, and think that they could possibly modify the graphical interface of the Browsing function, so that the filter spans across BOTH screens, and therefore two, or three extra levels of tagging could be facilitated.
Maybe it would be too tight, though? I still think that the tagging could be better implemented.
I’ve always thought at least one more would be cool, but then I got used to it and it’s not a problem anymore. Though I with all the K8 stuff, more tags would be cool, but again, you’ll find it works well with the browser.
(but don’t get me wrong, the update is hot!)
Is it just the browsing that has changed in the update – or are there other significant feature updates?
Mainly the browsing, but there are other bug fixes, etc. A few new additions like “pinning” pages. So when you go to say the mute page, you can “pin” it. So when you close it and open it again, you don’t have to lock it again, it will stay “pinned”
makes it easier to perform different things like note repeat, etc because you don’t have to keep locking the page anymore.
OMG!!!
i-Maschine!!!!! – Did you see that?!
http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/?content=1687
Yep…slow down there buddy you may want to wait and see it first 😉
Haha… I just got a little over-excited there. I been wanting to get a music making device for my phone for sometime, but wondered about the possibility of integrating into Maschine or Live. So yeah, kind curious to see what they do with it. But the update = GREAT! 😀 My Komplete 7 content is browsable = Win! (i thought they would only make K8 integrate, in order to get more people to upgrade for the workflow) This is soooooooo good! But…looks like 1.7 has cleared my projects from the Maschine browser 🙁 Opening them one-by-one manually from the OSX… Read more »
Nope, remember many of the products/synths in k7 are freely updatable to the latest versions. Only stuff you don’t get is kontakt 5 and guitar rig 5 as well as the new fx in k8.
Your project should be under the user tag.
Even Battery?
battery requires the “battery kit importer” which comes with k8, I would imagine they will make it available to battery/maschine owners in the future but I’m not for sure.
Cool thx bro.
you know it fam!
Pretty cool that quick loading Kontakt is great.It was kinda slow before.
Yes indeed sir, it’s quite nice, they load bout as fast as the synths, sickness.
What’s up SJ? Great Site!
I just downloaded 1.7 from the service center to my desktop. I clicked on the new 1.7 icon and it’s asking me to re-install maschine. Is that right? Do we have to re-install everything?
I’m an hardware guy, not too savvy with software. I want to make sure so, I don’t screw anything up. lol
Maybe you can do a tutorial on how to install the updates for us not too savvy software people. Thanks!
No you don’t have to reinstall, not sure what that message is. Make sure you have maschine unplugged when you do the update though. Are you on a Mac or PC?
I’m on a PC. I have to unplug the USB before I download the updates?
Yes, you need to make sure the controller is unplugged before you install the update.
im not seeing my kontakt in the maschine bank,Im using Kontakt 7 and also not seeing Razor as well ? there no option to add bank in the library.
Kontakt 5 shows up in the browser, not Kontakt 4. Razor will need an updated installer for it’s presets to show up. I would expect NI to start sending out those in the future just not sure exactly when.
What is the Mikro controller driver?
For this
http://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/producer/maschine-mikro/
Hey saint how did u get Razor to show up in you browser ?
I have an updated version.
of Razor ? or updated version of reaktor ?
saint sorry are u saying you have an update version of Razor ? Because I cant find any updates for it .
Yes I have an updated/newer version of Razor, there is not updates in the service center for it, I assume NI will send one out. My installer is the newer one.
did everyone have to re import all there sounds and samples librarys?
mine was totally blank, all my projects where not in there had to re import them too.
plus Komplete elements aint showing up?
I didn’t, sometimes you may have to do a rescan but you shouldn’t have to. All your saved stuff should have been in the “user” bank.
no nothing was there, got it sorted though! its all on disk tso when i import, it goes to the user bank with my subtypes and types already there so its all good…
the Komplete elements aren’t showing up under the keyboard symbol/instrument folder, and it says no importable data in folders when i go to import from disk.. does it not register elements only the full versions i wonder?
Have you downloaded reaktor 5 player and kontakt 5 player? I don’t have elements installed so I’m not sure on that one. But I think you’d need the newer versions of the players?
yeah downloaded the updates the other day,, but there are 3 updates in the service center but looks like they where updates from Kontact 4.2.4 and old version of reaktor 5.6.1 and rig 4.2.1… downloading them now will let you guys know if it works
Yeah those are just the updates to the older engines, but definitely install the reaktor one so it shows up in maschine
no joy cant seem to get it, no biggy really just wait and see if anyone else has the same problem… should be investing in Komplete8U soon anyway 🙂
Yeah I don’t know about the k elements, if you have guitar rig player 5 and kontakt player 5, that stuff should show up. Sounds like you have the full version of reaktor, which should be showing up in your browser.
Mine showing up blank as well. I down loaded all updated players and still no go. Pissed right now!
You have komplete 7 right? Did you do a rescan of the library locations in the libraries tab?
i only have the version that comes with elements then i downladed the free product from the NI website… haven’t bought any stuff from NI…
Oh okay, not sure about that then.
ah its all good dude!..
its still pretty quick getting the stuff though the usual method, don’t mind using the mouse until i get the K8U… and if its gets sorted in the meantime happy days!…
Cool bro!
Any body having trouble installing the latest Reaktor? It starts up with install aware but no further.
Will the Massive Banks only load if you have K 8? I still have K7 and they won’t load and show an error. Absynth and FM 8 will though. Is this normal/
make sure you’ve installed the latest massive update, they should load fine as long as you have the most recent version, should be 1.3
I have installed latest Massive,it works great as a plugin but it won’t load in the new browser.All the new expansions and stuff fail to load.
It should be loading, if the presets show up and you have the latest massive, there’s nothing else you would need to do for them to work.
Go into Massive in standalone mode, go into the preferences, and tell it to rebuild it’s database. Then see if it works.
i just downloaded 1.7 and i can’t find none of my samples i previously imported. I don’t even have a user bank like i see in the video
do a rescan of your user library/database
Got it done thanks man!
Cool bro! Glad it’s working!
I did a rescan of my user library. Some of my samples still weren’t showing up. I manually added them but i notice i still don’t have the new user bank like the one shown in the video
How about for your kits, or plugin modules or custom instruments. Save a new plugin preset or edit an instrument and save it, it should show up then. I don’t think it shows for samples, but only
for stuff that you actually save from inside of Maschine.
Is there a way to add a library to the libraries in preferences?
No, that’s for factory libraries only.
Man my day is just nuts! I can’t get Reaktor to go beyond install aware,it just won’t get in there lol!
Never saw that, running as admin?
Ya I am don’t know whats up. Oh well sent a note to N.I support. Thx man.
I can’t believe it! I turned off my anti virus and it installed. All the other updates went in with it on so I don’t get it?! Sorry for the bother dude!
Yep, that can happen bro lol
Hey Joe – I did a rescan of my libraries in Preferences – but I still have no ‘User’ tags at any levels of the browser.
Any ideas?
I don’t mind re-opening all of my projects one-by-one to have them show up in my Maschine Browser – but boy, am I ever glad that I only imported a small fraction of my sample library into Maschine before the update. None of my samples are visible in the library! 🙁
user bank is only for kits, instruments, plugin presets, etc, not straight samples. It’s only for stuff that you actually save inside Maschine.
So when you save a new sample after recording, or save a new kit, a new instrument or a plugin preset.
‘…user bank is only for kits, instruments, plugin presets, etc, not straight samples. It’s only for stuff that you actually save inside Maschine.’
OK, I’ve only started to do that recently – so I only have a few tweaked presets saved – but, still – no ‘User’ tags at any level, like in your demo.
Also, all my previously imported samples are no longer there – nor their tags. 🙁
Do a rescan of your user libraries, rescanning of the main libraries is only for factory stuff, do a rescan of your user library.
Hang on, I lie! (my bad)
I found a few instrument patches I made in the keyboard/instruments tab – but I had to actually load them before a ‘User’ tag appeared in the browser.
yeah, that’s do to the rescan thing, you need to rescan your user library so it finds that stuff again. or you can just manually load them, or go to the folder they are in and rescan it.
Cool.
Thanks for clearing that up.
Its great that NI is so pro-active on the upgrade front – but a little bit more documentation on how to properly do the install, and check that everything is fine with your libraries would REALLY help.
Glad to help bro
As you do, always SJ.
Three cheers for MT!
Ahahaha, thanks fam!
‘…Nope, remember many of the products/synths in k7 are freely updatable to the latest versions. Only stuff you don’t get is kontakt 5 and guitar rig 5 as well as the new fx in k8…’
AHA! Just saw this.
Just so I’m clear….things like absynth, reaktor, massive, FM& have recieved free updates – even though I haven’t upgraded to K8?
…hence they are browsable in Maschine now?
…BUT….
Kontakt and Guitar Rig have not – hence they are both NOT browsable?
correct, kontakt and guitar rig are actually new versions, version 5
fm8, massive, absynth, reaktor, are just updates, so once you installed the latest engines they will be browsable in Maschine
great….so ALL the K7 presets for those instruments you listed (fm8, massive, absynth, reaktor,) are what I’m seeing in Maschine?
Great! Thats actually better than what I was expecting (*ie. No K7 browsing in Maschine)
Is it possible to import Kontakt 4 and Guitar Rig 4 into Maschine at all?
Correct bro. As for K4 and Gr4, no way to import those unless you want to do it manually. Those products have actually been updated to new versions.
Hey SJ. Great to see the 1.7 update. I am having an issue getting all of my plug-ins to show up under the new “piano browser tab”. I have scanned and re-scanned not sure where or what folder it should point to so they show up. I have also updated all of my plugin from NI. NEED YOUR HELP…!!
Thanks,
ChillWill
Which plugins do you have from NI?
Hi SJ.. I have the following NI plug-ins which have all the most up to date versions. – Komplete Elements – Reaktor 5 – Kontakt 4 Player – Kore Player I also read something about not being able to use them because of 32bit over 64bit versions. Currently I believe I am using the 32bit version of Maschine. If this happens to be the issue, how do you launch an instance of 64bit Maschine. Like someone else stated a quick vid showing how to make sense of all of this would be great. Thanks for all of your hard work… Read more »
The only one of those that will show it’s presets in 1.7 would be Reaktor 5 if you have updated it to the latest version. Nothing else is designed to show in Maschine from your list. You can still use them the regular way, but you will not have instant preset browsing.
Hi Saintjoe,
none of my plugins or instruments show up when I click on the new “piano button”. I don´t own komplete but shouldn´t all my instruments show up? My Plugins are all 32 Bit as my operating system. I tried to rescan but still nothing shows up.
Thanks for your help, keep up the good work!
No, this is not a plugin list, it’s the presets. My non NI plugins are there because I have saved presets for them into my library. Your plugin list still shows the regular way, via the drop down menu on the module.
The keyboard icon is only for presets from Komplete or presets that you have saved from your other plugins.
Some Plugins that don´t show up:
Reaktor
Alchemy
Orcha
Kontakt
(and others)
Those show up in your regular plugin list, unless you’ve saved presets from them. Reaktor presets should show up with the latest update if you’ve installed the latest version of Reaktor.
The piano button is for presets only, not plugins. So if you don’t have any presets you’ve saved from your plugins, or you don’t have the newer versions of the NI plugins, nothing will show up there.
O.K. so it only shows the saved presets and not the actual instruments. I misunderstood that point when I watched your video.
Thanks for the fast answer. Now lets get back to maschine. lol
Yessir, no problem!
Damn Sj, it looked like you got slammed with a lot of similar questions on the update. I think you did a great job helping everyone, also I think you should do a quick vid explaining why it certain elements may not work…like in my situation where I only have the players and Kore packs.
Good job!
Yes, I was thinking the same thing. A quick explanation on some of the issues people are having 🙂
Look for it later!
I just updated to 1.7 Saintjoe but i forgot to unplug
maschine from my Imac….will this cause any malfuction?…Will I have reinstall everything……?
If everything is working you’re good, you’re supposed to unplug because during the install it updates the maschine driver.
it seems like everything is working good so far……I have komplete 7, is it suppose to show under the keyboard tab at the top left or is that only for komplete 8 intergration
massive, fm8, reaktor, and absynth should have their presets showing in that tab if you have the latest versions
also i dont have an option where it says user banks
nevermind about the user bank….I read the previous post
Hey saint since you have komplete 8 ,since this integration,can we drag samples directly from maschine into kontakt 5 ?
Say you want to drag from the library from maschine or from one of the sound pads and drag it over to Kontakt ?
You can’t drag that way, but you can do it via drag and drop audio.
you mean from desktop or etc… they should fix that tho it would be great to drag file to kontakt via Maschine right ?
I agree fam, I’ve been asking for this for a while. I’d like to be able to drag from the Maschine browser into plugins I have loaded into Maschine. Makes sense, we will see if they make it happen. Check the video I just posted though, may give you some ideas 🙂
I see the tab change now – Can you tell me if your Kore2 Shows up or works in 8 just wondering if i should update I have alot of kore 2 librarys
zack
what do you mean? kore 2 isn’t part of komplete 8, but you can still use it as a plugin in maschine
Where do U find the presents on the hardware for 3rd-party plugins?
They will be under the user bank, but they only show up if you save them. Third Party presets are not automatically imported by Maschine.
Man, so frustrating. I have a fresh install of both Komplete 8 ult, and maschine 1.7 and I had to install the content file of Komplete on an external hard drive.
Now Maschine can’t find any of the plugins or presets and none of them show up in the browser.
I have scanned and re-scanned the folder I can see them all in too, and it just will not recognize them.
Where did you install the product files themselves, not the content? And are you sure you’re running 1.7? Make sure the product/programs are installed on your c drive, the content itself can be on an external. Also, make sure you are running 1.7, go into Maschine, click the NI logo, and check.
Thanks man – I’m on a mac so the rest of the program was installed into the Applications folder.
I’m running version 1.7.1
Did you already run the plugins in standalone mode first? Also, if that doesn’t work, I would try running just the product installers again individually, not installing the content again, just the program install.
ahh no I didn’t yet, thank you – will try that now